I had one of these hoodies back about 10 years ago in '09. At the time they were sold everywhere. After a short time, unfortunately they developed the bad rep of being labeled as "GANG RELATED" clothes and were immediately restricted form being sold in stores. Finding this online was a God send because, looking past the (as some would call it) "design flaw", I couldn't find ANY other competitor that could stand up to my Champion. To the point, I used to live in Vermont and in -45 degree whether it didn't matter what you wore; that icy wind would cut to the bone. Having this hoodie under your daily driver jacket was all the insulation I needed, honestly. In Boston, especially during the winter, I would where this alone and be fine. Glad to see them back on the market! And if you think your not getting your moneys worth my last one lasted me till 2014, and only reason I parted ways with it to give to my now ex which I regret. But hey! GOT A NEW ONE!